MOELETSI MBEKI HAS LOST IT!! – A CRITIQUE OF SO CALLED ‘ARCHITECTS OF POVERTY’

Taking the title of his book (Architects of Poverty: Why African Capitalism Needs Changing) for instance, since when is capitalism regional or racial and/ or for that matter ethnically, racially or continentally defined as Xhosa, Zulu, Tswana, Sotho, Swahili, European, Indian, American, White or Black mode or type of capitalism. What is the meaning of the term African Capitalism? And just for interest sake, what will be the defining or discriminating issue(s) of these modes or types of capitalism? The number of females invested who have invested in it? And if there is African capitalism there should also be an Indian capitalism, Chinese capitalism etcetera and in the individual cases what are the defining and discriminating factor(s).

For starters there is only capitalism not African capitalism. To claim Africanism stinks of (white) stereotyping and cliché which basically emanates from white reactionaries. Further regarding the claim that Africa in its development efforts has received a lot of assistance from the West but to no avail Moeletsi should know that unlike what he professes the West really has not done much to assist the African countries. African initiatives once they do not coincide with Western interest are always sabotaged or schemes are put in place to remove initiators of such initiatives.

Moeletsi Mbeki: "Architects of Poverty"

Taking the title of his book (Architects of Poverty: Why African Capitalism Needs Changing) for instance, since when is capitalism regional or racial and/ or for that matter ethnically, racially or continentally defined as Xhosa, Zulu, Tswana, Sotho, Swahili, European, Indian, American, White or Black mode or type of capitalism. What is the meaning of the term African Capitalism? And just for interest sake, what will be the defining or discriminating issue(s) of these modes or types of capitalism? The number of females who have invested in it? And if there is African capitalism there should also be an Indian capitalism, Chinese capitalism etcetera and in the individual cases what are the defining and discriminating factor(s).

For starters there is only capitalism not African capitalism. To claim Africanism stinks of (white) stereotyping and cliché which basically emanates from white reactionaries. Further regarding the claim that Africa in its development efforts has received a lot of assistance from the West but to no avail Moeletsi should know that unlike what he professes the West really has not done much to assist the African countries. African initiatives once they do not coincide with Western interest are always sabotaged or schemes are put in place to remove initiators of such initiatives.

Western detractors of African efforts and Western exploitation of Africa always cite the rise of South Korea from the 1960’s when its economic strength was equal to that of Ghana. What they forget is that in the move to contain communism in Asia, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan and others were given a Marshall Plan type of assistance such as preferential trade arrangements, direct capital and aid injections. To cite just one such measure, South Korea, in its reconstruction, post partition, received much more American direct financial injection than all the combined cash/investment that has been injected into the whole of Africa. We can remove Egypt and Morocco from this aggregate who, again, receives support for political reasons.

The example given by Moeletsi of African incompetency has a tinge of reactionarism. Factually he cites dormant factories that are to be found in Zambia. Dormant factories are not found in Zambia alone, they are found in Tanzania, Nigeria, etcetera and they are not due to Black or African incompetency but due to the 1980’s Structural Adjustment Policies of the Bretton Wood Institutions, an extension of the Washington consensus. Basically they are monuments of failure and evil designs of the Structural Adjustment Programs.

Africa was forced to privatize and liberalize all aspects of their economy be it agriculture or industry. Furthermore African States were forced to stop subsidizing the nascent young economies which truly speaking needed to be protected and nurtured. Of late Africa cannot feed its self and this is due to a multiple of reasons the major one being the forced scrapping of subsidies on agricultural inputs. Again this was forced through the neo-liberal economic policies of globalization and thus Structural Adjustment Programs.

African agriculture has been forced to exist and survive in a globalized environment that is dependent on Western inputs which are not affordable to the peasants and is unaffordable without government intervention through subsidies. That is the source of collapse of the Africa agriculture. I will say nothing of the effects that subsidy of western agricultural sector (subsidy to a tune of one billion dollars per working day) has had on African Agriculture).

15 thoughts on “MOELETSI MBEKI HAS LOST IT!! – A CRITIQUE OF SO CALLED ‘ARCHITECTS OF POVERTY’

  1. The critique itself lacks a clear ideological and political thrust. Moeletsi Mbeki is an African who happen to be a proponent of Capitalism. He argues and advocates for a patriotic African National Bourgousie and also that South African corruption not capitalism is the root cause of lack of service delivery and socio-economic development. He cites CODESA II as another factor for economic failures, vividly he condemns BBBEEE as an utter failure and formula that had exarcibated the levels of corruptions.

    An angry or militant radical African Nationalist or Africanist argument lacks the necessary capability to point out the neo-colonialism did not necessaily rise because of some Africans are less African. Equally Moeletsi fails to recognises or due to his class interest it will be produnt to concede the free market system or capitalist orientated economic systems are bound to undermine in material terms any form of significant gains made during the liberation struggle and primarily they do not possess the necessary ability to lead the masses to genuine democracy and freedom whereat the people quality of life and living conditions shall be worth to be defined and described humanine.

    The African petty and Comprador Bourgousie had betrayed the revolution due to their self centredness arising from the nature of their class. The nationalist liberation movements limitation and ideological limitation had been thinking that by removing white minority rule and related forms of oppression then the African Continent problem is resolved. Today the same class of Moeletsi lives in comfort whilst the down trodden and wroking masses lacks certainty of tomorrow’s events. Racism is a problem however Capitalism in any form and orientation remains the root cause thus it must out rooted.

  2. Capitalism can’t be changed, it must be supplanted with socialism. Let me share with you the political views of one of the geniuses this world has produced, Albert Einstein who makes more sense than Moeletsi Mbeki. He wrote about “the economic anarchy of capitalist society being the real source of evil and a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labour – not by force, but on the whole in faithful compliance with legally established rules. In this respect, it is important to realise that the means of production – that is to say, the entire productive capacity that is needed for producing consumer goods as well additional capital goods – may legally be, and for the most part are, the private property of individuals. Workers are all those do not share in the ownership of the means of production. “The owner of the means of production is in a position to purchase the labour power of the worker. By using the means of production, the worker produces new goods which become the property of the capitalist. “The essential point about this process is the relation between what the worker produces and what he is paid, both measured in terms of real value. In so far as the labour is “freer,” what the worker receives is determined not by the real value of the goods he produces, but by his minimum needs and by the capitalists’ requirements for labour power in relation to the number of workers competing for jobs. It is important to understand and even in theory the payment of the worker is not determined by the value of his product. “Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands, partly because of competition among the capitalists, and partly because technological development and the increasing division of labour encourage the formation of large units of production at the expense of the smaller ones. The result of these developments is an oligarchy of private capital the enormous power of which cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organised political society. “This is true since the members of legislative bodies are selected by political parties, largely financed or otherwise influenced by private capitalists who, for all practical purposes, separate the electorate from the legislature. “The consequence is that the representatives of the people do not in fact sufficiently protect the interests of the underprivileged sections of the population. Moreover, under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main source of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights. “Production is carried on for profit, not for use. There is no provision that all those able and willing to work will always be in a position to find employment; an “army of unemployed” almost always exists. The worker is constantly in fear of losing his job. Since unemployed and poorly paid workers do no provide a profitable market, the production of consumers’ goods is restricted, and great hardship is the consequence. Technological progress frequently results in more unemployment rather than in an easing of the burden of work for all. The profit motive, in conjunction with competition among capitalists, is responsible for an instability in the accumulation and utilisation of capital which leads to increasingly severe depression. Unlimited competition leads to a huge waste of labour, and to that crippling of the social consciousness of individuals. The crippling of the individual I consider the worst evil of capitalism. Our whole educational system suffers from this evil. An exaggerated competitive attitude is inculcated into the student, who is trained to worship acquisitive success as a preparation for his future career. Einstein concluded that, “I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilised in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow-men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society. Nevertheless, it is necessary to remember that a planned economy is not yet socialism. A planned economy as such may be accompanied by the complete enslavement of the individual. The achievement of socialism requires the solution of some extremely difficult socio-political problems: how is it possible, in view of the far-reaching centralisation of political and economic power, to prevent bureaucracy from becoming all-powerful and overweening? How can the rights of the individual be protected and therewith a democratic counterweight to the power of bureaucracy be assured”?

    1. pardon me for a few mistakes in my recent post – I never revise but am sure you can by pass the typing mistakes.

      Let me take this opportunity to share something a fellow African has posted. B4 I do – with all due respect Sam , I notice that you quote Diop in an interview he gave in 1977 – it could be one of a few in which he spoke of socialism because that was the spirit of the 70s and of the liberation struggles as a whole.

      Albert Einstein says nothing more than what Marx has said in his Dialectical Materialism concerning production systems and the means sof production. It was the viable rhetoric of the time. Capitalism remains evil today but has changed its song and tactics to those employed during Albert’s time. There is no cold war anymore – for instance. We too must change our responses, indeed, we must change from being responders to being doers.

      We have to start somewhere and come up with our own political and economic philosophy – which should still be viable in a world of many different nationals. A lot of work for this was already done for us by our ancestors, including Diop, Chancellor Williams, Kalenga, Garvey,etc. Diop’s works are to do with pan-African social, economic and political ideas. All due respect to Albeit but he is very well sung by his people too – let us sing our own song and own up to our own heroes too.

      The following shows the audacity of hope that persists today in that we need to sort our house first ……

      BACK IN THE DAY IS STILL NEEDED TODAY:
      The Call for Re-Afrikanization by J. Alfred Cannon
      (Posted by Ahati N N Toure)

      Wednesday, 30 December 2009 at 15:30

      “Re-Africanization is the route to the ability of blacks to understand,
      relate to and accept their ancestral core. Black Americans,Afro Americans,
      African Americans, whatever the appellation, must develop the afore described interaction with Africa for identity ‘completeness.’No member of the Black African Diaspora, irrespective of which adopted
      homeland they reside in, can comprehend their ancestral ‘core’ or
      ‘Africaness’ without close cultural, educational, economic, spiritual
      and political interaction with their ancestral land base, Africa. …

      “Afro-Americans must understand and accept the fact that they are Black Diasporans and that Africa is the ancestral land and major spiritual base. They must feel, at a profound level, the significance and
      importance of the historical and cultural continuity with Africa. They
      must develop a set of experiences that reawakens the African ‘core.’
      We hear so often of the ‘born again’ religious experience; well, Re-Africanization should be a powerful emotional and intellectual rebirth.

      Black American Diasporans are failing in a variety of coping sectors
      because they lack a context of living. One can attain a variety of skills and material resources; however, if there is no spiritual-cultural context to the attainments, the ‘success’ is empty. …

      “Black Americans have little depth or consistency because their ‘cores’ are of an ersatz nature. The rejection of their African heritage because of the
      slave experience and certain other negative socialization techniques has
      robbed them of their essentiality and made blacks existentially vulnerable.
      The survival of Black American Diasporans depends upon acceptance
      of the need for the African ‘core’ identity and in that context
      develop an operational unity towards fostering the necessary spiritual,
      economic, cultural, educational and political linkages to the ‘home of
      homes,’ Africa.”

      SOURCE: J. Alfred Cannon, “Re-Africanization: The Last Alternative for Black America,” Phylon Vol. 38, No.2 (2nd Qtr., 1977): 203-210.

  3. Mbeki makes a lot of sense just by arriving at the title of his book. I cant wait to read it. I have been an avid Marxist and Socialist as a youth but got frustrated because both thoeries refuse to take seriously the plight of racism and slavery, unique to Africa, and thus which makes the African case a unique one. We continue to suffer today because of the mechanisms of a capitalist system that views Africa both as a source of resources and a dumping ground. Africa is a rich continent and its poverty is in direct contradiction to this reality – the answer for which can be found in the practice of western capitalism.

    Yes capitalising means just that – capitalising on someone or something for your own benefit. It is an evil system compared to socialism but it is the reality we live under today! It is within this context, within this reality, that we need to map out our own way forward – allowing those who mean to capitalise on us to continue dictating to us on matters of democracy, justice and how to run our economies is foolishness.

    Haiti stands out as an example of the intrinsic racialism and injustice within the western capitalist system. ‘The poorest nation in the west’ repors say lacking any genuine sympathy for what has happened to her people. Instead, western capitalism is mapping out how to restructure Haiti’s future economically, socially and above all religiously. Check haiti’s history of resistance and how successful she was on that score. It answers why this need to treat her the way Africa has been treated since 1890 and thus bring Haitians, as black people, into their rightfully place in the Capitalist ladder – ie. refuse them a right to their own economic, social or religious determination thus facilitating a one sided exploitative capitalist system.

    Maybe with our own understanding of Capitalism, African Capitalism can be a useful negotiating tool with western capitalism; given that all our input into the G20s and G8s of this world amount to a few minutes of air time and all is forgotten and ignored.

    Not revised – time.
    Karen Mbarika Kazingizi

  4. Can we to get from our good thinkers an analysis of the economic conditions of southern Afrika from the angle of history (1600-2000) to throw light on what caused poverty of hitherto rich Afrikans in spite of the resources of the land?

  5. I read Ngubeni ka Nkophe’s and Mbarika Kazingizi’s comments. Let me once again borrow the words of Albert Einstein. The discovery of general laws in the field of economics is made difficult by the circumstance that observed economic phenomena are often affected by many factors which are very hard to evaluate separately. in addition, the experience which has accumulated since the beginning of the so-called civilised period of human history has – as is well known – been largely influenced and limited by causes which are by no means exclusively economic in nature. For example, most of the major states of history owed their existence to conquest. The conquering people established themselves, legally and economically, as the privileged class of the conquered country. They seized for themselves a monopoly of the land ownership and appointed a priesthood from among their own ranks. The priests, in control of education, made the class division of society a permanent institution and created a system of values by which the people were thenceforth, to a large extent unconsciously, guide in their social behaviour. Einstein wrote that nowhere have we overcome what Thorstein Veblen called “the predatory phase” of human development. The observable economic facts belong to that phase and even such laws as we can derive from them are not applicable to other phases. Since the real purpose of socialism is precisely to overcome and advance beyond the predatory phase of human development, economic science in its present state can throw little light on the socialist society of the future. Secondly, socialism is directed toward a social-ethical end. Science, however, cannot create ends and, even less, instil them in human beings; science, at most, can supply the means by which to attain certain ends. But the ends themselves are conceived by personalities with lofty etiical ideals and – if these ends are not stillborn, but vital and vigorous – are adopted and carried forward by those many human beings who, half-consciously, determine the slow evolution of society. There is nothing like African capitalism. Capitalism is capitalism and it is about greed and maximum profit. If you read what Einstein wrote correctly, you would understand that the economic theories we are trying to apply to the capitalist economic system that was imposed on us by conquest are inapplicable. They won’t work. Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki, Kgalema Motlanthe and Jacob Zuma do not understand that simple logic put forward by Einstein. They have not read him. It is the same Einstein who came with the theory of relativity. He was a genius and his political views are hiddn and suppressed. I also recommend Frantz Fanon’s The Wretched of the Earth and Dr Cheikh Anta Diop’s 1977 interview with Afriscope magazine. Uhuru na Umoja wa Afrika. Kwaheri.

    1. I have read both comments from Sam and the one from Knrumah – I must admit that they carry profound and uncontestable truths. I have no argument whatsoever wit what you say. I come here with a pan-Africanist take and am willing to learn as much as I can from your input. I thank you sincerely for what you have already said. Such is the objective truth of capitalism vs socialism.

      But truth is relative, and any objectivity is underlined by subjectivity due to our nature as human beings.

      Let me qualify my reasoning before I forward my argument argument:
      1) There is no doubt in my mind that Socialism was proved to be the better system over capitalism by the recent credit crunch. As socialists we all knew that Capitalism was moribund and that after decades of practice it would turn on itself and crush. IT HAPPENED. Thanks to the housing markets and banks.

      2)The present state of hieghtened warfare and new tricks to undermine developing countries – is a testimony to that, for evil capitalism will do anything to continue influencing and therefore exploiting the world until it has taken that world and itself down.

      3) Russia and China and even Korea and Vietnam, have all focused their attention on the so called NWO and have put aside ‘isms’. International trade and the acceptance of a ‘united nations’ theory has blurred the lines between the two ‘isms’. Political ‘isms’, in the New World Order,now have their place with social ‘isms’ such as feminism, gayism, racism, etc. In other words, in the eyes of our defeated (through religion) masses, they are the evils they would rather not hear about.

      4) Following from point 3, the European Union is evidence of how other nations have moved on – symbolised by the fall of the Berlin wall and the reluctant acceptance of India and China as partners in world power. Yet white communists and socialists are rife in Africa – working very hard to limit the most intelligent of our people to pursuing socialism which in turn would alienate them from a world now focused on a NWO as well as alienate them from blacks in diaspora. Most of these blacks live in the States where Socialism was considered evil and therefore not taught.

      5) In conjunction with point 2, (a)Our majority are Christins, unlike Europeans! Thanks to colonial missionary work from 1600 to 2000 and ongoing! (@Ngubeni!)
      (b) Modern warfare has developed to the heights of manipulating nature; controlling weather; earthquakes and and hurricanes and long before that rain!
      Conclusion: Our masses will themselves be an obstacle in an international socialist agenda – for if we are hit hard by the evil capitalists in retaliation – they will rightly believe it is the work of God – because the white man and his capitalist technology has declared himself God over the world. The same will be the case for an ‘African capitalism’ but the latter will hold say in that it does not divide the African race in a world where the European race is theoretically united.

      After all what is African capitalism besides the demand to harness any capitalist economic enterprising on the continent in the name of Africans rather than Europeans? Our deeply engrained socialims, engarined by the philosophy of ‘umuntu ngu muntu ngabantu’ will take precedence eventually – as long as that philosphy is dealing with African Capitalists! It will be a natrual move from capitalism to socialism FOR AFRICANS!.

      This is how it is with other countries – there is serious socialism here in Britian. But it is confined to its citizens while they deal with the rest of the world in a capitalist modus operandi. This is what I percieve in African Capitalism – capitalisin gon our resources and trade to develop a system of soialism in our own continent. The majority of our brothers in diaspora are oriented that way – and African unity has never been more vital than it is now. To be divided along the lines of ‘isms’ will be a downfall. I dont know Mbeki and I will probably disagree with a lot ofwhat he writes – given the comments from other peple here – but I do know that Marxism.Socialism have now become a dogma and a danger to tying our people down on a new belief that will not emancipate them. We need economic emancipation by all means necessary. We are politically free now – with SA being the last in 1990 – so why not spearhead the Chimurenga for economic independence. Land and resources – whether they willbe manipulated in a socialist or capitalist direction – must belong to us now. I thought this is what Mbeki is on about – I could be wrong.

  6. I am one of those Africans who believes in our own heroes, there should be no doubt about that. Is Einstein saying nothing from what Marx has propagated? The theories of dialectical materialism ascribed to Marx, Engels and Lenin can be traced to ancient Egypt. Nothing has changed since Einstein wrote that exposition in 1949. The elite in Europe stole books from Egypt and equipped themselves with the knowledge the acquired from those books and hid them from us. The person who is credited with authoring Moral and Dogma, Albert Pike a 33rd degree Freemason was accused of plagiarism. Marx, Guiseppe Mazzini, Otto von Bismarck and Pike worked together and belonged to secret societies that kept the mysteries of ancient Egyptian knowledge hidden from us. Around 1853 Pike joined the Ku Klux Klan and in 1860 Mazzini founded the Mafia. When I speak about socialism I speak about socialisation of the economy, democratisation far beyond what a capitalist country can achieve and egalitarianism. It is true that the West, particularly the US is using the High-Frequency Active Aural Research Project to focus large amounts of electromagnetic radiation into the ionosphere as a defence shield as well as affecting regional and global weather patterns, disrupting global communication systems and altering the mental processes of human beings. The Americans used earthquake weapons which they have unleashed on Haiti. They use pulse, plasma and tesla electromagnetic and sonic technology together with shock wave bombs. A week ago the US tested the same weapons in a town called Eureka in California but there were no casualties like in Haiti. The features of the earthquakes that hit Venezuela on the 8th January, Honduras on the 11th January and Haiti on the 12th January are similar that is why some experts say those earthquakes were human engineered. On July 28 1976 a man-made earthquake destroyed Tangshan in China killing over 650,000 people. It was reported that just before the first tremor, the sky lit up like daylight. The lights were seen up to 200 miles about 340 km and leaves on trees were burned to a crisp and growing vegetables were scotched on one side as if by a fireball. what type of an earthquake is this. Iran will be the next to be hit by a series of earthquakes to try to topple the current government

    1. “The theories of dialectical materialism ascribed to Marx, Engels and Lenin can be traced to ancient Egypt.” – I like this.
      What you say in your response is plausible amd well narrated, allow me to share it with friends on FB. Will acknowledge you! Thank you.

      “When I speak about socialism I speak about socialisation of the economy, democratisation far beyond what a capitalist country can achieve and egalitarianism” I am sure a lot of us will benefit from a further narration of this. I really would like to understand how. In the same vein – how does the urgency I tried to explain fall in line with this socialisation and democratisation. I refer here to the fact that the West have taken centruries to perfect their exploitation and division of Africa. In this they have adversely affected the mentality and orientation of our people. It is therfore easy for them to pity the same masses against any leader who dares to challenge their imposed system and therefore status quo – be it through socialisation and democratisation or any other means. The have no shame in doin gthis along Tribal lines or over acusations of corruption, theft, anything that they trow – will stick. The are supported in this muld slinging by the powerful Wesern media and and bodies such as the UN and the International Security Council – primarily because they have (a)rewritten our history – ensuring everlasting tribal mistrusts and hates
      (b) can find our own people to support their distortions and views
      There is an Iraq inquiry right now but there will never be a colonial inquiry or Zimbabwe Inquiry etc – they can take our leaders to private courts in their former mother colonies and senence them without the slightest lifting of a finger by other fellow africans.

      To cut a long question short – how can we base this socialisation and democratisation on the ideology of pan -Africanism or any other afrocentric approach, – a path already made concrete by African thinkers past and present. Most of their research brings in the Egyptian/African paradigm and the question is how to go from there?

  7. In all capitalist countries major economic and financial decisions are taken by a handful of people. This can not be democratic by any stretch of imagination. Education in most capitalist countries is acquired not by the ability of the student to learn and his/her potential but by his/her ability to pay. That can not be democratic. In the former Soviet Union and East European countries there was no socialism but a combination of dictatorship and state capitalism which benefited members of the Politburo or Presidium and their friends and relatives. They gave socialism a bad name. And the western media, which itself an oligopoly and is by no means democratic, rode on the crest of the wave of the blunders of the Eastern bloc and the Soviet Unions and their subsequent collapse and capitalised on them. Democracy, socialism and egalitarianism are inextricably entertwined. These are some of values Africanism embraces. They are not mutually exclusive to Africanism or Afrocentrism. The Greek philosophers who gave Greece its fame who are quoted in Dialectical Materialism of Marx, Engels and Lenin such as Aristotle, Plato, Pyrthagoras, Galen, Heraclitus, Philo to name but a few all studied in Egypt or were students of those who studied in Egypt. How do we move from the Egyptian/African paradigm? Diop and others have laid the foundation. African leadership is a disgrace. As Diop pointed out in the 1977 interview I mentioned in my previous comment, they are selfish and use African interests merely as a pretext for individual selfishness. Their survival is dependent on their colluding and collaborating with our former colonisers. The mentality and orientation of our people, ofcourse must be of concern especially in South Africa and the new leadership is happy to keep them ignorant. Prolonged foreign domination and loss of national consciousness leads to stagnation. The education system still extols the virtues of everything western and undermines everything African. We imbibe theories that devalue and dehumanise African lives and people. Partisanship and tribalism are a big hindrance and Africa can not be built on the basis of tribalism and partisanship. We must be loyal to the continent and its people.

  8. there is where i wrote about being under prolonged foreign domination and the loss of national consciousness instead of having written ‘notional sovreignty’ leads to stagnation.

  9. Brother Sam, I have read your recent two replies from my e-mail page and am thankful for the explanations. I find in it a lot that I feel I should share with others for learning purposes.

    It can still be argued though, that just as you agree that
    a) Capitalism is a practice of the Westen world
    b) Socialism as practiced by Russia and China was also lacking and not real socialism ..
    c) It remains to beg the question for an African socialism (socialisation and democratisation) and in direct opposition to that, an African capitalism?

    I begin to answer fo myself even before I submit this question, that capitalism is evil and should not be advocated for….

    But it will be interesting to hear your response. Not to worry if you have no time. I have understood a lot from your earlier input.

  10. Thanks for an edifying exchange of ideas with son of the soil Mbarika. Let us call socio-political and economic system which is devoid of exploitation AFRICANISM. If you have not had an opportunity to read about ideas of Robert Sobukwe, the founding President of the Pan Africanist Congress, please do so. I think the editors of this web magazine can arrange for you to get the speeches of Sobukwe which are suppressed in South Africa because, as you might be aware, history is written in the corridors of power. I would also recommend a book by Cheikh Anta Diop titled, Black Africa: Economic and Cultural Basis to a Federated State. Please also get Ralph Miliband’s Socialism for a Sceptical Age and you will probably concur that there is nothing like ‘capitalism with a human face’. We can call it ‘African capitalism’ but it would still be exploitative and characterised by greed and its attendant vices.. It would just be like dressing a wolf with a sheep’s skin.

    1. Noted. I know of Robert Sobukwe, you cant escape his name in pan -Africanism. Cant recall what I read of/from him so will contact the editors. Am acquainted with Diop and only referred to Miliband for specific essays so will check that too. –

      How wonderful it would be if all the pan-africanist groups on various networks were to come under one umbrella which can convert all that social capital into a dynamic and more organised engagement – …

  11. Point taken, Mbarika. I wish the editors can compile this exchange, edit, proof-read and publish in a booklet form. For example, is it dressing with a sheep skin or in a sheep skin? The Arabs have a common forum and speak Arabic. Africans don’t have a medium through which they can communicate in a common language during a particular time of the day. We don’t have a continental lingua franca and there is no attempt to elevate one of our languages to the status of a continential language which any foreigner must use to address us. No single African language enjoys interpretation services at the UN and other multi-lateral forums. But Persian, which is spoken only in Iran, does. Language is part of our cultuqe and as long as we are not elevating our languages to be used in commerce and science, we can do nothing for African culture. We embrace it to smother it, as Diop pointed out. In Southern Africa we can start with Kiswahili because our languages are classified as Bantu languages including Agikuyu (Kikuyu) in Kenya. The current crop of African leadership have been weighed on the scales of history and have been found wanting. Foward ever, backward never!

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